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Post by SeainDennis on May 22, 2006 15:04:00 GMT -5
((seaindennis)))) I agree!!!! If Dennis didn't leave "The Temptations" set for life then it's highly "Unlikely" that he could walk away from the Review,and never have to work again!. Everybody and anybody can retire,myself included,but I don't believe anybody wants to work as hard when they are old as they did when they were young if they didn't "have" to. It saddens me to say this but If The Late Great David Ruffin and Eddie Kendricks were still with us,I believe they would still "have" to tour. And they were the "hit makers" of The Tempts! Artist like Smokey,Ree-Ree, Stevie and MS.Ross to you, work when they want to and on their terms. I also agree that it is a "blessing" that The Review have a full schedule. That goes to show you that people are still fasinated by the legacy the C5 . The Review is the recipent of The Temptations fans undying loyalties.But lets face it they are not commanding the salaries of years gone by. Touring is hard when you're young,and I can't believe anyone would put themsevles through that grueling exercise "Just" because they want to. They do it because they love to perform. None of the "classic" artists are "commanding the salaries of years gone by" Not one. Smokey,Re-Re,Diana & Stevie do not tour often...whose to say that they DON'T want to tour more often? MikeNYC, there is nothing wrong with their love of performing. I also know they are probably doing it because they want to. However, my point is I'm sure at some point, they get tired. I mean, I do not want to work until I'm 65 or 70 years old, if I can help it. I want to be able to enjoy my life along with aches and pains without any stress. Smokey tours because he wants to, not because he has to. Aretha, same thing. Diana, same thing. I'll give another example. Look at Melvin Franklin. I'm sure it was the roar of the crowds that kept him going but at some point, somebody should have said to him, "look you are too sick to continue in this manner because it will kill you". And that's exactly what happened. That's extreme of course but I'm just saying, I don't want to read or hear stories like a Jackie Wilson or Phillipe Wynne who injured or died on stage because they felt they had to get out there because they had to.
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Post by eizzie on May 22, 2006 15:21:19 GMT -5
((seaindennis)))) I agree!!!! If Dennis didn't leave "The Temptations" set for life then it's highly "Unlikely" that he could walk away from the Review,and never have to work again!. Everybody and anybody can retire,myself included,but I don't believe anybody wants to work as hard when they are old as they did when they were young if they didn't "have" to. It saddens me to say this but If The Late Great David Ruffin and Eddie Kendricks were still with us,I believe they would still "have" to tour. And they were the "hit makers" of The Tempts! Artist like Smokey,Ree-Ree, Stevie and MS.Ross to you, work when they want to and on their terms. I also agree that it is a "blessing" that The Review have a full schedule. That goes to show you that people are still fasinated by the legacy the C5 . The Review is the recipent of The Temptations fans undying loyalties.But lets face it they are not commanding the salaries of years gone by. Touring is hard when you're young,and I can't believe anyone would put themsevles through that grueling exercise "Just" because they want to. They do it because they love to perform. None of the "classic" artists are "commanding the salaries of years gone by" Not one. Smokey,Re-Re,Diana & Stevie do not tour often...whose to say that they DON'T want to tour more often? THANK YOU MIKE--GLAD TO KNOW SOMEBODY ELSE UNDERSTANDS THAT DENNIS AND THE REVEW ARE WORKING BECAUSE THEY LOVE TO ENTERTAIN. THEY ACCEPT THE DATES THEY WANT AND THERE ARE TIMES THEY DO TAKE OFF AND REST. FOR EXAMPLE, THEY TOOK OFF THE ENTIRE MONTH OF JANUARY.
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Post by temptreviewfan on May 23, 2006 8:04:15 GMT -5
Eizzie, I'm glad to see Dennis working but on the real tip, I wish he was doing because he wants to, not because he has to. It really bothers me to see some of our classic soul artists having to constantly work just to survive. It does not make sense. I would like to see Dennis work whenever he feels like it and not because he feels has to. EXCUSE ME--BUT DID I MISS SOMETHING HERE? WHO SAID DENNIS HAD TO WORK? IM SURE DENNIS COULD LIVE EXTREMELY WELL IF HE DIDN'T WORK ANOTHER DAY IN HIS LIFE. I DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT WHAT OTHER SOUL ARTIST HAVE TO DO, BUT I DON'T THINK MR. EDWARDS IS IN THAT CATERGORY THAT HE NEEDS TO WORK TO SURVIVE. I NEVER HEARD OR READ ANYWHERE THAT DENNIS OR ANY OF THE REVIEW WISHED THEY DIDN'T HAVE SO MANY CONCERT DATES. HAVE YOU??? ITS A BLESSING, A COMPLIMENT AND QUITE AN ACHEIVEMENT TO BE POPULAR ENOUGH AND BE IN SUCH DEMAND TO HAVE A FULL SCHEDULE. HAVING SO MANY CONCERT DATES IS NOT A CURSE--ITS A CURSE WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE THEM. Surely you must be joking! You need to wake up and smell the java. If you and MikeNYC think that Dennis Edwards is out there performing night after night simply because he love to perform then I got some swamp land in Florida I could sell you. What was dennis doing before he formed the review? sitting around counting his money? If Dennis want to keep a roof over his head and take care of his family he has to work. it's just that simple. When I saw him on tv a few months ago he looked extremely tired and looked like he needed some rest. I like seeing the Review perform too but let's face it Dennis is working because he has too. He ain't got it like that where he don't have to work. It's the truth and you all should not be shame to admit it to yourselves.
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Post by RealTemptation Fan on May 23, 2006 12:12:58 GMT -5
They do it because they love to perform. None of the "classic" artists are "commanding the salaries of years gone by" Not one. Smokey,Re-Re,Diana & Stevie do not tour often...whose to say that they DON'T want to tour more often? THANK YOU MIKE--GLAD TO KNOW SOMEBODY ELSE UNDERSTANDS THAT DENNIS AND THE REVEW ARE WORKING BECAUSE THEY LOVE TO ENTERTAIN. THEY ACCEPT THE DATES THEY WANT AND THERE ARE TIMES THEY DO TAKE OFF AND REST. FOR EXAMPLE, THEY TOOK OFF THE ENTIRE MONTH OF JANUARY. There is no dispute that they love to entertain. But they and their families also love to eat . What's wrong with the statment that they need to work to live? It's not as if they are recording new material, For Gods sake they are imitating The Real Temptations!!! . Which I feel they do very well btw. I am a big fan of The Review,but there is no disrespect in stating the truth.I like Dennis Edwards as a performer and as a person.(maybe not as much as others ) Jayz never has to work again, Snoop never has to work again...Diddy never has to work again.....Russell Simmons never has to work again.....I could go on with this list of artist that could live a star lifestyle without working,but Dennis Edwards is not on it. Comparing Dennis Edwards to Smokey Robinson,Stevie Wonder and Diana Ross is just wrong. These artist are Motown Royality. Dennis is very talented but he is not in the same category of any of these legends. I believe he would agree.
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Post by RealTemptation fan on May 23, 2006 12:25:05 GMT -5
EXCUSE ME--BUT DID I MISS SOMETHING HERE? WHO SAID DENNIS HAD TO WORK? IM SURE DENNIS COULD LIVE EXTREMELY WELL IF HE DIDN'T WORK ANOTHER DAY IN HIS LIFE. I DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT WHAT OTHER SOUL ARTIST HAVE TO DO, BUT I DON'T THINK MR. EDWARDS IS IN THAT CATERGORY THAT HE NEEDS TO WORK TO SURVIVE. I NEVER HEARD OR READ ANYWHERE THAT DENNIS OR ANY OF THE REVIEW WISHED THEY DIDN'T HAVE SO MANY CONCERT DATES. HAVE YOU??? ITS A BLESSING, A COMPLIMENT AND QUITE AN ACHEIVEMENT TO BE POPULAR ENOUGH AND BE IN SUCH DEMAND TO HAVE A FULL SCHEDULE. HAVING SO MANY CONCERT DATES IS NOT A CURSE--ITS A CURSE WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE THEM. Surely you must be joking! You need to wake up and smell the java. If you and MikeNYC think that Dennis Edwards is out there performing night after night simply because he love to perform then I got some swamp land in Florida I could sell you. What was dennis doing before he formed the review? sitting around counting his money? If Dennis want to keep a roof over his head and take care of his family he has to work. it's just that simple. When I saw him on tv a few months ago he looked extremely tired and looked like he needed some rest. I like seeing the Review perform too but let's face it Dennis is working because he has too. He ain't got it like that where he don't have to work. It's the truth and you all should not be shame to admit it to yourselves. Big dose of REALITY here!
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Post by SeainDennis on May 23, 2006 15:03:40 GMT -5
They do it because they love to perform. None of the "classic" artists are "commanding the salaries of years gone by" Not one. Smokey,Re-Re,Diana & Stevie do not tour often...whose to say that they DON'T want to tour more often? THANK YOU MIKE--GLAD TO KNOW SOMEBODY ELSE UNDERSTANDS THAT DENNIS AND THE REVEW ARE WORKING BECAUSE THEY LOVE TO ENTERTAIN. THEY ACCEPT THE DATES THEY WANT AND THERE ARE TIMES THEY DO TAKE OFF AND REST. FOR EXAMPLE, THEY TOOK OFF THE ENTIRE MONTH OF JANUARY. LOL! I said the same thing in my previous post but extending my point, I just wish that Dennis does not have to work this hard at this stage of the game. I don't see what the problem is. And I wouldn't call one month a vacation, in particular for an entertainer like Dennis, whose probably working and living out of a suitcase 9-10 months at time. He may work several dates at a time but still, it's hard. Any entertainer who works on the road constantly can tell you that.
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Post by SeainDennis on May 23, 2006 15:14:03 GMT -5
THANK YOU MIKE--GLAD TO KNOW SOMEBODY ELSE UNDERSTANDS THAT DENNIS AND THE REVEW ARE WORKING BECAUSE THEY LOVE TO ENTERTAIN. THEY ACCEPT THE DATES THEY WANT AND THERE ARE TIMES THEY DO TAKE OFF AND REST. FOR EXAMPLE, THEY TOOK OFF THE ENTIRE MONTH OF JANUARY. There is no dispute that they love to entertain. But they and their families also love to eat . What's wrong with the statment that they need to work to live? It's not as if they are recording new material, For Gods sake they are imitating The Real Temptations!!! . Which I feel they do very well btw. I am a big fan of The Review,but there is no disrespect in stating the truth.I like Dennis Edwards as a performer and as a person.(maybe not as much as others ) Jayz never has to work again, Snoop never has to work again...Diddy never has to work again.....Russell Simmons never has to work again.....I could go on with this list of artist that could live a star lifestyle without working,but Dennis Edwards is not on it. Comparing Dennis Edwards to Smokey Robinson,Stevie Wonder and Diana Ross is just wrong. These artist are Motown Royality. Dennis is very talented but he is not in the same category of any of these legends. I believe he would agree. There's nothing wrong with comparing Dennis to Smokey, Stevie or Diana. He's a part of the Temptations legend, like or not. He gave the group, on & off, 25 years. And comparing new jacks to classic soul artists is apples and oranges because they have been the receivers of getting better information about how the music industry works. But that's besides the point. The main issue here is whether it's Dennis or any other soul singer, when they are at that age, they don't want to work the same way they did when they were younger. Another example: Little Anthony & The Imperials. Now when was the last time his group had a hit? But still, he works when he wants to, not because he has to. This what Little Anthony himself said in interview. The current Tempts are no more 'real' than Dennis' group. All they(Otis for that matter) have is exclusive rights to the name not ownership. This is the same problem that Mary Wilson is having with all those 'group' of Supremes. How can their groups be 'fake' when she herself is hiring bogus folks and passing them off as Supremes? Same analogy. Dennis was hired to be Temptation and his group is no different than O's group. None of them are 'original' members either and beside, Dennis' group is more of 'tribute' group. No crime in that.
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Post by MikeNYC on May 23, 2006 15:14:49 GMT -5
They do it because they love to perform. None of the "classic" artists are "commanding the salaries of years gone by" Not one. Smokey,Re-Re,Diana & Stevie do not tour often...whose to say that they DON'T want to tour more often? MikeNYC, there is nothing wrong with their love of performing. I also know they are probably doing it because they want to. However, my point is I'm sure at some point, they get tired. I mean, I do not want to work until I'm 65 or 70 years old, if I can help it. I want to be able to enjoy my life along with aches and pains without any stress. Smokey tours because he wants to, not because he has to. Aretha, same thing. Diana, same thing. I'll give another example. Look at Melvin Franklin. I'm sure it was the roar of the crowds that kept him going but at some point, somebody should have said to him, "look you are too sick to continue in this manner because it will kill you". And that's exactly what happened. That's extreme of course but I'm just saying, I don't want to read or hear stories like a Jackie Wilson or Phillipe Wynne who injured or died on stage because they felt they had to get out there because they had to. I understand what you are saying,but I don't remember Jackie Wilson or Phillipe Wynne being in a situtation where they felt like they HAD to perform. Frank Sinatara performed in his latter years,I don't think that he HAD to. Do you?
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Post by SeainDennis on May 23, 2006 15:17:40 GMT -5
Wow, Eizzie! You really told me! Are you are alright? Because I'm re-reading what I wrote to see what elicted such a heated response from you. *I* am concerned for all our classic soul artists, whether it be Aretha or Dennis or anyone else. There is nothing wrong with them making money or getting bookings but it should be done on their terms. What is so wrong about that? Our classic soul acts, IMO, should be treated like the treasures they are and not like *second class* citizens. There are singers like Smokey, Aretha and Diana Ross who have the good fortune to work only when they want to. That's a good thing because the reality is that these folks are all up in age. They are not getting any younger. Touring is wear and tear on the body and at this stage of the game, whether it's Dennis or anyone else, they should not have to work that hard. Yes, it's their choice whether they want to and if they could afford not to, God bless them. No need to take offense to something expressed out of concern. ((seaindennis)))) I agree!!!! If Dennis didn't leave "The Temptations" set for life then it's highly "Unlikely" that he could walk away from the Review,and never have to work again!. Everybody and anybody can retire,myself included,but I don't believe anybody wants to work as hard when they are old as they did when they were young if they didn't "have" to. It saddens me to say this but If The Late Great David Ruffin and Eddie Kendricks were still with us,I believe they would still "have" to tour. And they were the "hit makers" of The Tempts! Artist like Smokey,Ree-Ree, Stevie and MS.Ross to you, work when they want to and on their terms. I also agree that it is a "blessing" that The Review have a full schedule. That goes to show you that people are still fasinated by the legacy the C5 . The Review is the recipent of The Temptations fans undying loyalties.But lets face it they are not commanding the salaries of years gone by. Touring is hard when you're young,and I can't believe anyone would put themsevles through that grueling exercise "Just" because they want to. Molly, I want to see Dennis do well but I also want him healthy. I'm tired of reading about entertainers dying in their 50s & 60s because they have to keep working in order to live. I don't believe it myself that anyone would want to put themselves through all of that touring.
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Post by SeainDennis on May 23, 2006 15:25:52 GMT -5
MikeNYC, there is nothing wrong with their love of performing. I also know they are probably doing it because they want to. However, my point is I'm sure at some point, they get tired. I mean, I do not want to work until I'm 65 or 70 years old, if I can help it. I want to be able to enjoy my life along with aches and pains without any stress. Smokey tours because he wants to, not because he has to. Aretha, same thing. Diana, same thing. I'll give another example. Look at Melvin Franklin. I'm sure it was the roar of the crowds that kept him going but at some point, somebody should have said to him, "look you are too sick to continue in this manner because it will kill you". And that's exactly what happened. That's extreme of course but I'm just saying, I don't want to read or hear stories like a Jackie Wilson or Phillipe Wynne who injured or died on stage because they felt they had to get out there because they had to. I understand what you are saying,but I don't remember Jackie Wilson or Phillipe Wynne being in a situtation where they felt like they HAD to perform. Frank Sinatara performed in his latter years,I don't think that he HAD to. Do you? MikeNYC, I don't recall Jackie Wilson being in the best of financial shape. Remember that he was under Nat Tarnpool and the contract that he signed. Obviously, Jackie was not in the best of health and we all saw what happened to him. Neither was Phillipe Wynne. I could be wrong that he probably didn't HAVE to perform but we all saw what happened to him when he did. As for Sinatra, that also proves part of my point. As I stated before, entertainers should work because they want to, not because they have to. In Sinatra's case, he didn't have to but he should have been stopped. This is according to Sinatra's children. In his much later years, he really was not in the shape to be out on the road but he continued to do it. To love what you do is one thing but it's quite another when it becomes a task rather than enjoyment. I'm not saying at all that Dennis should stop. What I'm saying is that it would be nice if his workload wasn't so heavy. What is so wrong about that?
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Post by MikeNYC on May 23, 2006 15:28:01 GMT -5
EXCUSE ME--BUT DID I MISS SOMETHING HERE? WHO SAID DENNIS HAD TO WORK? IM SURE DENNIS COULD LIVE EXTREMELY WELL IF HE DIDN'T WORK ANOTHER DAY IN HIS LIFE. I DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT WHAT OTHER SOUL ARTIST HAVE TO DO, BUT I DON'T THINK MR. EDWARDS IS IN THAT CATERGORY THAT HE NEEDS TO WORK TO SURVIVE. I NEVER HEARD OR READ ANYWHERE THAT DENNIS OR ANY OF THE REVIEW WISHED THEY DIDN'T HAVE SO MANY CONCERT DATES. HAVE YOU??? ITS A BLESSING, A COMPLIMENT AND QUITE AN ACHEIVEMENT TO BE POPULAR ENOUGH AND BE IN SUCH DEMAND TO HAVE A FULL SCHEDULE. HAVING SO MANY CONCERT DATES IS NOT A CURSE--ITS A CURSE WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE THEM. Surely you must be joking! You need to wake up and smell the java. If you and MikeNYC think that Dennis Edwards is out there performing night after night simply because he love to perform then I got some swamp land in Florida I could sell you. What was dennis doing before he formed the review? sitting around counting his money? If Dennis want to keep a roof over his head and take care of his family he has to work. it's just that simple. When I saw him on tv a few months ago he looked extremely tired and looked like he needed some rest. I like seeing the Review perform too but let's face it Dennis is working because he has too. He ain't got it like that where he don't have to work. It's the truth and you all should not be shame to admit it to yourselves. Keep your swampland,you gotta have someplace for Otis' group to perform. Dennis has to work just as much as Otis does. They both are in the same boat. Now getting back to what I said, yes Dennis performs to get paid just like every other performer. But he also loves to perform. That's the reality of it.
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Post by MikeNYC on May 23, 2006 15:46:59 GMT -5
THANK YOU MIKE--GLAD TO KNOW SOMEBODY ELSE UNDERSTANDS THAT DENNIS AND THE REVEW ARE WORKING BECAUSE THEY LOVE TO ENTERTAIN. THEY ACCEPT THE DATES THEY WANT AND THERE ARE TIMES THEY DO TAKE OFF AND REST. FOR EXAMPLE, THEY TOOK OFF THE ENTIRE MONTH OF JANUARY. There is no dispute that they love to entertain. But they and their families also love to eat . What's wrong with the statment that they need to work to live? It's not as if they are recording new material, For Gods sake they are imitating The Real Temptations!!! . Which I feel they do very well btw. I am a big fan of The Review,but there is no disrespect in stating the truth.I like Dennis Edwards as a performer and as a person.(maybe not as much as others ) Jayz never has to work again, Snoop never has to work again...Diddy never has to work again.....Russell Simmons never has to work again.....I could go on with this list of artist that could live a star lifestyle without working,but Dennis Edwards is not on it. Comparing Dennis Edwards to Smokey Robinson,Stevie Wonder and Diana Ross is just wrong. These artist are Motown Royality. Dennis is very talented but he is not in the same category of any of these legends. I believe he would agree. This is the funniest post that I've seen in a long time. The "Real Temptations" are dead. They haven't performed since 1989. So if the Review is imitating the "Real Temptations",what do you think Otis'& 'em are doing? Melvin Franklin did say that the Temptations were the most imitated group around,in 1970. As far as "new material",Otis &'em are remaking songs. The Review made a gospel cd. The gospel cd sounds much better than "Reflections " and "Legacy" put together. Also I don't see anything wrong with compairing GREAT Motown artists like Smokey,Stevie,Diana..and DENNIS EDWARDS. Hell, the first time Diana,Stevie and Smokey stood thisclose to a Grammy was when they visited Dennis' house and asked to see what a Grammy award looks like. Dennis has more grammys than Diana and Smokey put together. Dennis was also inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame on the same day as Stevie Wonder,so what's the problem with mentioning his name along with his PEERS? Since you want to be "realistic" about things.Can't get any more real than that. Michael Jackson was thought of as a person that doesn't have to work again...Seems like that story has changed,so don't count JayZ,Russell Simmons,Snoop or anyone else out.You never know what tomorrow will bring.
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Post by MikeNYC on May 23, 2006 15:53:10 GMT -5
I understand what you are saying,but I don't remember Jackie Wilson or Phillipe Wynne being in a situtation where they felt like they HAD to perform. Frank Sinatara performed in his latter years,I don't think that he HAD to. Do you? MikeNYC, I don't recall Jackie Wilson being in the best of financial shape. Remember that he was under Nat Tarnpool and the contract that he signed. Obviously, Jackie was not in the best of health and we all saw what happened to him. Neither was Phillipe Wynne. I could be wrong that he probably didn't HAVE to perform but we all saw what happened to him when he did. As for Sinatra, that also proves part of my point. As I stated before, entertainers should work because they want to, not because they have to. In Sinatra's case, he didn't have to but he should have been stopped. This is according to Sinatra's children. In his much later years, he really was not in the shape to be out on the road but he continued to do it. To love what you do is one thing but it's quite another when it becomes a task rather than enjoyment. I'm not saying at all that Dennis should stop. What I'm saying is that it would be nice if his workload wasn't so heavy. What is so wrong about that? Question,did Frank's children give a reason why he kept on performing? Nothing has been stated where ANY of these performers felt like it was a Task to perform. Health issues can happen to anyone at any age. Some people feel as long as they can do it,why stop?
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Post by MikeNYC on May 23, 2006 15:57:23 GMT -5
There is no dispute that they love to entertain. But they and their families also love to eat . What's wrong with the statment that they need to work to live? It's not as if they are recording new material, For Gods sake they are imitating The Real Temptations!!! . Which I feel they do very well btw. I am a big fan of The Review,but there is no disrespect in stating the truth.I like Dennis Edwards as a performer and as a person.(maybe not as much as others ) Jayz never has to work again, Snoop never has to work again...Diddy never has to work again.....Russell Simmons never has to work again.....I could go on with this list of artist that could live a star lifestyle without working,but Dennis Edwards is not on it. Comparing Dennis Edwards to Smokey Robinson,Stevie Wonder and Diana Ross is just wrong. These artist are Motown Royality. Dennis is very talented but he is not in the same category of any of these legends. I believe he would agree. There's nothing wrong with comparing Dennis to Smokey, Stevie or Diana. He's a part of the Temptations legend, like or not. He gave the group, on & off, 25 years. And comparing new jacks to classic soul artists is apples and oranges because they have been the receivers of getting better information about how the music industry works. But that's besides the point. The main issue here is whether it's Dennis or any other soul singer, when they are at that age, they don't want to work the same way they did when they were younger. Another example: Little Anthony & The Imperials. Now when was the last time his group had a hit? But still, he works when he wants to, not because he has to. This what Little Anthony himself said in interview. The current Tempts are no more 'real' than Dennis' group. All they(Otis for that matter) have is exclusive rights to the name not ownership. This is the same problem that Mary Wilson is having with all those 'group' of Supremes. How can their groups be 'fake' when she herself is hiring bogus folks and passing them off as Supremes? Same analogy. Dennis was hired to be Temptation and his group is no different than O's group. None of them are 'original' members either and beside, Dennis' group is more of 'tribute' group. No crime in that. Otis' group is a 'tribute' group too.
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Post by eizzie on May 23, 2006 18:51:35 GMT -5
;D ;D MY MY--YA'LL ON A ROLL TODAY. ;D ;D. OPINIONS CERTAINLY DO COUNT...EVEN IF THEY AIN'T NECCESARILY TRUE FACTS. IN THE MEANTIME, DENNIS IS PROBABLY LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK.
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