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Post by SeainDennis on May 31, 2006 12:22:17 GMT -5
My opinion is this: As long as folks can 'back up with they say' and don't wallow in mindless gossip or rumors, take personal shots or insults at others, then I don't see anything as "off topic". I love Dennis do but I'm not about to create some 'fantasy' about him as if he is some sort of saint. He is not. He has had problems just like all other Tempts and to try to 'cover it up' does him a disservice. I don't see what there is to hide. If Dennis got alot of kids, so what??? If Dennis did drugs, so what??? Does it make him less of a man or a person? Of course not! He's human like the rest of us and has made mistakes. Perhaps, if we talked about it, we could all learn from it. The greatest achievement that Dennis had made is that he bounced back from his adversities and is still kicking. That's a fact! Dennis himself has said in interviews many times how fortunate he is to be here. I don't mind discussing Dennis' achievements but I also don't mind talking about the bad and the ugly. I think we can do that without mudslinging, gossip and nastiness. Also, please be free to discuss other topics other than Dennis. There is only so much you can talk about Dennis and the Review. That's why there is a general topic(called 'Cloud Nine) board. So what do yall think?
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Post by MikeNYC on Jun 1, 2006 19:48:47 GMT -5
My opinion is this: As long as folks can 'back up with they say' and don't wallow in mindless gossip or rumors, take personal shots or insults at others, then I don't see anything as "off topic". I love Dennis do but I'm not about to create some 'fantasy' about him as if he is some sort of saint. He is not. He has had problems just like all other Tempts and to try to 'cover it up' does him a disservice. I don't see what there is to hide. If Dennis got alot of kids, so what??? If Dennis did drugs, so what??? Does it make him less of a man or a person? Of course not! He's human like the rest of us and has made mistakes. Perhaps, if we talked about it, we could all learn from it. The greatest achievement that Dennis had made is that he bounced back from his adversities and is still kicking. That's a fact! Dennis himself has said in interviews many times how fortunate he is to be here. I don't mind discussing Dennis' achievements but I also don't mind talking about the bad and the ugly. I think we can do that without mudslinging, gossip and nastiness. Also, please be free to discuss other topics other than Dennis. There is only so much you can talk about Dennis and the Review. That's why there is a general topic(called 'Cloud Nine) board. So what do yall think? I understand most of what you're saying. Dennis had not hidden the rugh times in his life and even onstage he says how blessed he is to still be here. He has sung about tough times in his life in his song that he wrote for his mother on his "Talk To Me" Cd.But that's HIS story to tell,not mine,or anyone else's, in my opinion.I guess it's fair to talk about anything in print,but to talk about things that have benn shared in confidence...I don't think that is right. That kind of thing can destroy relationships. And for what,just to have something to say on a message board? I doubt that any of us would want our personal lives discussed on a public forum. So what entertainers are in public view they are still human too. I think it's great that there is a board that is designed to honor Dennis & The Review,heck you got so many others that don't show him,or the Review any respect at all. That's on them,personally I don't know how anyone that considers themselves a "Temptations" fan not show Dennis any respect.Where would the group be without Dennis responding the way he did when he took Ruffin's place? And David Ruffin was a big star,not just a bit player for the Tempts.Most of the disrespect comes from lack of knowledge of the Tempts and they really don't want to learn about their history. They don't know what other members thought about the way things happened,they just have one members account and think that's Gospel. There's a reason that Dennis was inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame along with the classic line up,and didn't have to wait 25 years after Cloud 9 was released like the "rule book" says...He was damn good,despite the cries of "Where's David?" and jealous groupmates reminding him that he's a "replacement" when he disagreed with their opinions concerning group issues.He established a place for himself in Tempts history unlike any other member who was not a C5 member. Those who talk crap about the Review and Dennis using "Temptations Review" fail to realize that Dennis is performing the songs that he made and performed during his HALL OF FAME career and is performing them well.He has a right to do so. Folks might as well get over it. Many folks are discovering just how good the Review is...the word is spreading. I'm happy for them,they are nice guys and deserve nothing but the best.Some folks like to give Otis credit for everything,he didn't teach his groupmates how to sing,Paul & Eddie taught him how to harmonize,dance and dress onstage. I give Otis credit for being 1/6th of the greatest group in the world. He's hung in there ,he had no other option. Dennis has also hung in there taking a true legend's place in David Ruffin and making himself a true legend at the same time. I've gone to see both groups,want to see the other groups at least once.I enjoy the Review's shows,I put up with Otis' show. To me,The review's the best of them all.With or without Ali Woodson. I just hope that they stay together and continue to do well.
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Post by MARK BELL on Jun 2, 2006 11:38:33 GMT -5
YOU ARE RIGHT DENNIS DID CARVE HIS PLACE IN TEMPTATIONS HISTORY, BUT IT IS A DAMN SHAME HE DIDN'T REALIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE TEMPTATIONS NAME WHILE HE WAS IN THE GROUP! OTIS HAS HUNG IN THERE AND IS STILL A TEMPTATION, DENNIS IS NOT, AND HASN'T BEEN IN ALMOST 20 YEARS. OTIS AND AND MELVIN GAVE DENNIS 3 CHANCES TO BE IN THE GREATEST GROUP IN THE WORLD, BUT HIS PERSONAL DEMON COST HIM THE JOB OF A LIFETIME! WHAT DO MEAN DENNIS HUNG IN THERE? NO HE DIDN'T! IN 1977 HE WAS KICKED OUT, BUT THEY GAVE HIM 2 MORE CHANCES AND HE STILL SCREWED UP. ALL OF A SUDDEN AT 63 HE WANTS TO BE RECONIZED. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT BUT DENNIS SCREWED HIMSELF! OTIS WAS SMART ENOUGH TO RELACE HIM AND KEEP ON MOVING WHILE DENNIS HAS BEEN STUCK IN NEUTRAL FOR YEARS SINGING THOSE OLD SONGS! I ENJOY OTIS SHOW, AND THE EFFORT THEY PUT OUT ON CD! THE REVIEW MAY BE GOOD BUT THEY ARE NOT TEMPTATIONS!
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Post by RealTemptation fan on Jun 2, 2006 13:41:07 GMT -5
IMHO everything that Dennis has over come is a testament to his Perseverance. I don't know how any of these facts can be viewed as negative or taking shots. Dennis is a public figure,so naturally there are things that are going to come up and discussed about what is known about his personal life. A person that appreciates his talent is not going to be swayed by discussions about the rough times in his life. Unless they are into hero worship. Things he has done or not done,can never take away from his powerful voice,and the joy it has bought to many fans over the years. Until the administrators of this board state they do not want these types of discussions,I can't understand why a member would attempt do so.
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Post by RealTemtations fan on Jun 2, 2006 13:43:48 GMT -5
YOU ARE RIGHT DENNIS DID CARVE HIS PLACE IN TEMPTATIONS HISTORY, BUT IT IS A DAMN SHAME HE DIDN'T REALIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE TEMPTATIONS NAME WHILE HE WAS IN THE GROUP! OTIS HAS HUNG IN THERE AND IS STILL A TEMPTATION, DENNIS IS NOT, AND HASN'T BEEN IN ALMOST 20 YEARS. OTIS AND AND MELVIN GAVE DENNIS 3 CHANCES TO BE IN THE GREATEST GROUP IN THE WORLD, BUT HIS PERSONAL DEMON COST HIM THE JOB OF A LIFETIME! WHAT DO MEAN DENNIS HUNG IN THERE? NO HE DIDN'T! IN 1977 HE WAS KICKED OUT, BUT THEY GAVE HIM 2 MORE CHANCES AND HE STILL SCREWED UP. ALL OF A SUDDEN AT 63 HE WANTS TO BE RECONIZED. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT BUT DENNIS SCREWED HIMSELF! OTIS WAS SMART ENOUGH TO RELACE HIM AND KEEP ON MOVING WHILE DENNIS HAS BEEN STUCK IN NEUTRAL FOR YEARS SINGING THOSE OLD SONGS! I ENJOY OTIS SHOW, AND THE EFFORT THEY PUT OUT ON CD! THE REVIEW MAY BE GOOD BUT THEY ARE NOT TEMPTATIONS! Do you have a OFF button? Dennis get more recognition then Otis,and he always has. Otis group is not The Temptations either!
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Post by SeainDennis on Jun 2, 2006 18:24:26 GMT -5
My opinion is this: As long as folks can 'back up with they say' and don't wallow in mindless gossip or rumors, take personal shots or insults at others, then I don't see anything as "off topic". I love Dennis do but I'm not about to create some 'fantasy' about him as if he is some sort of saint. He is not. He has had problems just like all other Tempts and to try to 'cover it up' does him a disservice. I don't see what there is to hide. If Dennis got alot of kids, so what??? If Dennis did drugs, so what??? Does it make him less of a man or a person? Of course not! He's human like the rest of us and has made mistakes. Perhaps, if we talked about it, we could all learn from it. The greatest achievement that Dennis had made is that he bounced back from his adversities and is still kicking. That's a fact! Dennis himself has said in interviews many times how fortunate he is to be here. I don't mind discussing Dennis' achievements but I also don't mind talking about the bad and the ugly. I think we can do that without mudslinging, gossip and nastiness. Also, please be free to discuss other topics other than Dennis. There is only so much you can talk about Dennis and the Review. That's why there is a general topic(called 'Cloud Nine) board. So what do yall think? I understand most of what you're saying. Dennis had not hidden the rugh times in his life and even onstage he says how blessed he is to still be here. He has sung about tough times in his life in his song that he wrote for his mother on his "Talk To Me" Cd.But that's HIS story to tell,not mine,or anyone else's, in my opinion.I guess it's fair to talk about anything in print,but to talk about things that have benn shared in confidence...I don't think that is right. That kind of thing can destroy relationships. And for what,just to have something to say on a message board? I doubt that any of us would want our personal lives discussed on a public forum. So what entertainers are in public view they are still human too. I think it's great that there is a board that is designed to honor Dennis & The Review,heck you got so many others that don't show him,or the Review any respect at all. That's on them,personally I don't know how anyone that considers themselves a "Temptations" fan not show Dennis any respect.Where would the group be without Dennis responding the way he did when he took Ruffin's place? And David Ruffin was a big star,not just a bit player for the Tempts.Most of the disrespect comes from lack of knowledge of the Tempts and they really don't want to learn about their history. They don't know what other members thought about the way things happened,they just have one members account and think that's Gospel. There's a reason that Dennis was inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame along with the classic line up,and didn't have to wait 25 years after Cloud 9 was released like the "rule book" says...He was damn good,despite the cries of "Where's David?" and jealous groupmates reminding him that he's a "replacement" when he disagreed with their opinions concerning group issues.He established a place for himself in Tempts history unlike any other member who was not a C5 member. Those who talk crap about the Review and Dennis using "Temptations Review" fail to realize that Dennis is performing the songs that he made and performed during his HALL OF FAME career and is performing them well.He has a right to do so. Folks might as well get over it. Many folks are discovering just how good the Review is...the word is spreading. I'm happy for them,they are nice guys and deserve nothing but the best.Some folks like to give Otis credit for everything,he didn't teach his groupmates how to sing,Paul & Eddie taught him how to harmonize,dance and dress onstage. I give Otis credit for being 1/6th of the greatest group in the world. He's hung in there ,he had no other option. Dennis has also hung in there taking a true legend's place in David Ruffin and making himself a true legend at the same time. I've gone to see both groups,want to see the other groups at least once.I enjoy the Review's shows,I put up with Otis' show. To me,The review's the best of them all.With or without Ali Woodson. I just hope that they stay together and continue to do well. Thank you for responding, MikeNYC. I am not asking for dirty laundry or sordid details. I am not asking for people to post confidential information (which I was crucified for taking it to task a couple of months ago) about Dennis or the Review. However, people are going to be curious and want to know more about the group. That is just nature of things and people. As you stated, I would like to discuss Dennis' history with the Tempts, the good & the bad. I would like to talk about the things that Tony Turner said in his book about Dennis. I mean, what I'm saying about Dennis is public record. It would be nice to hear Dennis' side about himself as well his relationship with David & Eddie. Or even reading what David Sea says about working with these men. I don't see the harm in wanting to know. As for the rest of your post, I totally agree with you. I do not think Dennis gets enough respect as a Temptation despite his contributions. It is like Dennis is a sidebar in the history of the group and he deserves more than that.
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Post by SeainDennis on Jun 2, 2006 18:36:17 GMT -5
YOU ARE RIGHT DENNIS DID CARVE HIS PLACE IN TEMPTATIONS HISTORY, BUT IT IS A DAMN SHAME HE DIDN'T REALIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE TEMPTATIONS NAME WHILE HE WAS IN THE GROUP! OTIS HAS HUNG IN THERE AND IS STILL A TEMPTATION, DENNIS IS NOT, AND HASN'T BEEN IN ALMOST 20 YEARS. OTIS AND AND MELVIN GAVE DENNIS 3 CHANCES TO BE IN THE GREATEST GROUP IN THE WORLD, BUT HIS PERSONAL DEMON COST HIM THE JOB OF A LIFETIME! WHAT DO MEAN DENNIS HUNG IN THERE? NO HE DIDN'T! IN 1977 HE WAS KICKED OUT, BUT THEY GAVE HIM 2 MORE CHANCES AND HE STILL SCREWED UP. ALL OF A SUDDEN AT 63 HE WANTS TO BE RECONIZED. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT BUT DENNIS SCREWED HIMSELF! OTIS WAS SMART ENOUGH TO RELACE HIM AND KEEP ON MOVING WHILE DENNIS HAS BEEN STUCK IN NEUTRAL FOR YEARS SINGING THOSE OLD SONGS! I ENJOY OTIS SHOW, AND THE EFFORT THEY PUT OUT ON CD! THE REVIEW MAY BE GOOD BUT THEY ARE NOT TEMPTATIONS! Mark Bell, obviously you have choose to ignore my post to you in the other thread. So since you call yourself disrupting my thread with this IRREVELANT post, let me bring you back on topic. Better yet, let me re-post my post from the other thread so you can answer it instead of battling with MikeNYC: Now you can run up behind Mike or anyone else anytime they say something you don't agree with concerning Dennis' group but you can't respond to a non-Temptation post? Seems to me that not only do you have a one-track mind, but you are desperate for attention. I know you probably annoy other people on other boards too, which does not surprise me one iota. ;D ;D ;D But since you want to continue being the board comedian, I guess I will have to find creative ways to deal with you & your 'jokes'! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by MikeNYC on Jun 2, 2006 19:51:34 GMT -5
YOU ARE RIGHT DENNIS DID CARVE HIS PLACE IN TEMPTATIONS HISTORY, BUT IT IS A DAMN SHAME HE DIDN'T REALIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE TEMPTATIONS NAME WHILE HE WAS IN THE GROUP! OTIS HAS HUNG IN THERE AND IS STILL A TEMPTATION, DENNIS IS NOT, AND HASN'T BEEN IN ALMOST 20 YEARS. OTIS AND AND MELVIN GAVE DENNIS 3 CHANCES TO BE IN THE GREATEST GROUP IN THE WORLD, BUT HIS PERSONAL DEMON COST HIM THE JOB OF A LIFETIME! WHAT DO MEAN DENNIS HUNG IN THERE? NO HE DIDN'T! IN 1977 HE WAS KICKED OUT, BUT THEY GAVE HIM 2 MORE CHANCES AND HE STILL SCREWED UP. ALL OF A SUDDEN AT 63 HE WANTS TO BE RECONIZED. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT BUT DENNIS SCREWED HIMSELF! OTIS WAS SMART ENOUGH TO RELACE HIM AND KEEP ON MOVING WHILE DENNIS HAS BEEN STUCK IN NEUTRAL FOR YEARS SINGING THOSE OLD SONGS! I ENJOY OTIS SHOW, AND THE EFFORT THEY PUT OUT ON CD! THE REVIEW MAY BE GOOD BUT THEY ARE NOT TEMPTATIONS! Mark Bell, obviously you have choose to ignore my post to you in the other thread. So since you call yourself disrupting my thread with this IRREVELANT post, let me bring you back on topic. Better yet, let me re-post my post from the other thread so you can answer it instead of battling with MikeNYC: Now you can run up behind Mike or anyone else anytime they say something you don't agree with concerning Dennis' group but you can't respond to a non-Temptation post? Seems to me that not only do you have a one-track mind, but you are desperate for attention. I know you probably annoy other people on other boards too, which does not surprise me one iota. ;D ;D ;D But since you want to continue being the board comedian, I guess I will have to find creative ways to deal with you & your 'jokes'! ;D ;D ;D ;D He's desperate for knowledge on the group.If he knew anything about the group he would realize that Dennis will always be a HALL OF FAME TEMPTATION. He would have known that in 1977 Dennis LEFT the group to persue a solo career and was ASKED to come back when the Atlantic Records stint didn't pan out for Otis& the group.He would also have known that Kenny Gamble wanted to sign the Tempts during that time,but he wanted Eddie,DENNIS,David,Melvin & Otis and when that didn't happen,Gamble didn't sign ANY of them,Otis included. If Otis was a smart as you claim he would have listened to Eddie when Eddie was complaining about the musical direction that the group was going...instead of waiting four years to complain about the exact same thing that Eddie complained about.Nothing smart about that at all. Now,one can say "well,the group was selling records when Eddie was complaining and they shouldn't have made a change just to make him happy. If you look at it,Eddie was on to something because,yes the "message songs" were selling (Cloud Nine won Motown's first Grammy)but when the group did sing about love in the songs "I Can't Get Next To You" and "Just My Imagination" ,they reached #1 in both pop and R&B charts a feat that none of the Grammy winning tunes were able to accomplish. But,if you don't have the knowledge of these things you go on believing things like Mr. Bell says. The Review is the closest thing to the REAL HALL OF FAME TEMPTATIONS that's out there today. This includes Otis' group. Maybe that upsets him but he'll get over it once he gains some knowledge on the Tempts . This board just happens to be about Dennis Edwards and the Temptations Review. Dennis Edwards didn't make any more or less mistakes than Otis did.Neither one is perfect. It seems like Dennis has more respect for his deceased groupmates than Otis does. Dennis pays tribute to them ,I hear that Otis copied the idea but he got the idea from Dennis.You keep talking about Dennis singing the "old" songs,I say that he doesn't...He sings the CLASSIC songs and CLASSICS never grow old.Besides,the "newer" songs that Otis' crew recorded don't seem to be in much of a demand even that "gift of a Grammy" tune that you tried to boast about. You could never go word for word with me because you lack the knowledge. I'm glad that you enjoy Otis' group but when you want to try to make your "boy" look good,get the facts right and in order for you to do that you gotta learn the history. I'll be more than happy to teach it to you. ;D Anytime.
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Post by MikeNYC on Jun 2, 2006 21:19:51 GMT -5
EVERYTHING YOU JUST MENTIONED IS IN OTIS BOOK. THAT GRAMMY WAS NOT A GIFT. ARE YOU TRYING THEY DIDN'T EARN THAT GRAMMY! IF YOU ARE THEN IT IS YOU WHO LACK KNOWLEDGE. I NEVER ONCE TRIED TO SELL YOU OTIS GROUP, I JUST MENTIONED SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I LIKED. I HAVEN'T TOLD ANYBODY TO BUY REFLECTIONS OR LEGACY OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT OTIS PUT OUT. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT MIKE. YOU GIVE DENNIS HIS PROPS, BUT I AM A TEMPTATIONS FAN, AND OTIS JUST HAPPEN TO STILL BE THERE. MIKE THANKS FOR QUOTING ALL OF THAT STUFF OUT OF OTIS BOOK. I READ THE SAME PAGES! You haven't read HALF of the pages that I've read. Most of that stuff that I mentioned I knew BEFORE Otis wrote the book. ;D Nice try. That Grammy was sure enough a GIFT. Most Grammy winning tunes are popular..."Stay" was a very popular song...and a better song than ANYTHING that the group has put out since. I am a Temptations fan too. Have seen every line up that's made it to the recording studio.That's why I find the Review to be the better show. ;D You are trying to tell people about the last two cd's "Legacy" and "Reflections"....what does that have to do with Dennis Edwards? NOTHING. What does Dennis Edwards have to do with the Temptations? Plenty. Was inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame (same time as Otis). Sang lead on the group's and Motown's first Grammy..Cloud Nine,which was a very popular tune Was with the group during their heyday and was an important part in the group's success. Was and still is the most well known voice of the Temptations that's alive today.Dennis voice still promotes the Temptations everytime they come to town. Otis was NEVER a member of the Temptations Review,so why keep bringing him up? Simple,you're trying to sell the "Legacy" and "Reflections" cdto the folks on this board. I don't see any threads on those cd's on this board...maybe I missed something? I could see if there was a thread about those cd's and you came with your views on it and folks tell you that we aren't talking about that stuff in a thread that clearly is titled "Legacy" and "Reflections" cd...That would be wrong,but if I'm not mistaken we are talking about Dennis & The Review..and...Otis was never a part of that . Why keep bringing up Otis?
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Post by MikeNYC on Jun 2, 2006 21:25:58 GMT -5
YOU GIVE DENNIS HIS PROPS, BUT I AM A TEMPTATIONS FAN, If this was true,you would be giving Dennis his props too. If he folded like Rickey Owens did,you wouldn't have a damn thing to talk about because the Tempts would never have made it have a board to discuss Otis or any other member. But lack of knowledge keeps you talking like you do. Sad.
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Post by SeainDennis on Jun 2, 2006 21:30:41 GMT -5
Mark Bell, continue to 'ignore' me and I'll continue deleting your post. What part of not 'diverting' the thread do you not understand? Keep on posting in this thread and watch your posts disappear. MikeNYC, please do not entertain Mark in this thread. If you want to, I'll set up a seperate thread or you can set up a seperate thread to continue your discussion/debate.
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Post by MikeNYC on Jun 2, 2006 21:47:48 GMT -5
Mark Bell, continue to 'ignore' me and I'll continue deleting your post. What part of not 'diverting' the thread do you not understand? Keep on posting in this thread and watch your posts disappear. MikeNYC, please do not entertain Mark in this thread. If you want to, I'll set up a seperate thread or you can set up a seperate thread to continue your discussion/debate. No need for that.Just addressing the misinformation that was given on Dennis and his tenure with the Tempts. Too many folks are mislead about Dennis and his days as a Tempt. He led on as many hits for the group as David & Eddie. if not more. Was a standout performer for the group for many years. And gives props to his Hall Of Fame groupmates. In an interview with Donnie Simpson on BET,Dennis talked about how Paul encouraged him when he first joined the group...when the fans would ask for David and Dennis would get discouraged,Paul would tell him...'Dennis,you're singing good,just hold your head up and sing...the people will come around'. In an interview he did for SOUL,Dennis was quoted as saying that "when Paul Williams was alive,I thought that we were the baddest group in the world." He also cited Eddie as "the most important Tempt" Saying that as a fan he would notice that tenor. Dennis has paid his dues as a member of the Tempts and should be respected for what he's brought to the group.
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Post by SeainDennis on Jun 2, 2006 21:52:53 GMT -5
Mike, I understand you defending Dennis but it just annoys me that I'm trying to get things out in the open and the thread 'deviates' from the original theme. I just want to hear other people's opinions about my original post before literally going off topic. That's why I'm willing to let you guys create a thread to talk about what you & Mark are discussing. It's interesting and it deserves to have it's own thread.
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Post by MikeNYC on Jun 2, 2006 21:59:45 GMT -5
Mike, I understand you defending Dennis but it just annoys me that I'm trying to get things out in the open and the thread 'deviates' from the original theme. I just want to hear other people's opinions about my original post before literally going off topic. That's why I'm willing to let you guys create a thread to talk about what you & Mark are discussing. It's interesting and it deserves to have it's own thread. Well,that's up to you...I'm not about to even try to tell you what to do on your board. If you start another thread and he has some things that he wants to discuss with me,fine. Back to what you want to discuss in this thread about DENNIS....
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Post by MARK BELL on Jun 5, 2006 17:27:53 GMT -5
MIKE THAT GRAMMY WAS NO GIFT, I DON'T CARE HOW MUCH KNOWLEDGE YOU CLAIM YOU HAVE. THEY EARNED IT. THAT PARTICULAR LINE UP DID THEIR JOB AND WAS REWARDED WITH ONE OF MUSIC HIGHEST HONERS. I DON'T CARE HOW MANY LINE-UP OR CONCERTS YOU HAVE SEEN. YOU ARE RIGHT "STAY" IS A BETTER SONG THAN I'M HERE, BUT THE GRAMMY WAS FOR BEST TRADITIONAL ALBUM, NOT FOR THE SONG. MY INTENTION IS NOT TO KNOCK THE REVIEW OR TO PRAISE THE TEMPTS. THERE IS ROOM FOR BOTH GROUPS IN THIS BUSINESS. MIKE YOU ALWAYS TRY TO MAKE YOURSELF LOOK BETTER BY TALKING ABOUT MY LACK OF KNOWLEDGE, I QUESTION YOURS AT TIMES. EVERYONE KNOWS THAT RICKY OWENS LASTED ONLY ONE WEEK IN THE TEMPTATIONS BECAUSE HE FORGOT THE WORDS TO JUST MY IMAGINATION, THEN DAMON HARRIS WAS BROUGHT IN, EVEN THOUGH OTIS WAS NOT PARTICULARLY FOND OF DAMONS VOICE AND THE FACT THAT DAMON WAS MUCH YOUNGER THAN THE REST OF THE GROUP, THEY DECIDED TO TAKE A CHANCE ON HIM. AS FAR AS THEM WORKING WITH KENNY GAMBLE AND LEON HUFF, INITIALLY IT SOUNDED LIKE A GOOD IDEA, BUT GAMBLE AND HUFF WANTED TO BRING BACK DAVID, DENNIS, AND EDDIE TO REPLACE LOUIS, RICHARD, AND GLEN. OTIS STOOD FIRM FOR HIS GROUP INSISTING THAT LOUIS,RICHARD, AND GLEN HAD FAMILIES TO FEED AND NEEDED TO BE COMPENSATED. THE DEAL DEAL DIDN'T PAN OUT AND SHORTLY AFTER THE TEMPTS AND LOUIS PRICE PARTED WAYS, THEY RETURNRED TO MOTOWN WITH DENNIS AS THEIR LEAD SINGER AND BEGAN WORKING ON THE POWER ALBUM! LOUIS PRICE CAME BACK TO SING DAVIDS PARTS IN THE TEMPTATIONS MOVIE. HOW IS THAT FOR KNOWLEDGE MIKE!
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